Scottish Mercenary!?

Thanks to Roddie MacLennan for this interesting info on the Mac Corriston name:

As far as MacCorriston name is concerned, this may interest you. The Manus, on the stone was a Galloglach (gallowglass ),a gaelic speaking warrior, employed by fellow gaels, in Ireland, against the English. There were thousands travelled each year, for the fighting season. Many settled ( there are some excellent books on the subject ).

Read more here

I will be in Dublin in July

Hello all,

I’ve done some long over due housekeeping on the blog.  I’ve cleaned up the tags and categories a bit and added the long promised link to Laurence’s letter. And a link to some info re: the Canadian Coristine patriarch, James Coristine (thanks to Cynthia & Ian).

I also wanted to say that my husband and I will be visiting Ireland (for the first time!) in July, 2010.  We will be in Dublin from July 12 to the 19th.  If anyone would like to get together for a chat feel free to contact me at p.coristi@gmail.com.

I won’t be able to fill you in on any more genealogy than what appears on this blog, but I’d love to meet some Irish relatives!

Laurence Mc Corristine letter

Thanks to Cynthia Coristine and her husband, Ian Browness, for the tons of additional research on the Canadian Coristines; particularly James Coristine and his descendants.  Together, they have worked hard to publish the results of Cynthia’s research.  The book is entitled:  James Coristine § From Griffintown to Mount Royal § The History of a Montreal FurMerchant & Manufacturer

Meanwhile, here is Ian’s link to the full and fascinating story behind the Mc Corristine letter.

Laurence Mc Corristine’s letter link

Hello all,

I’ve decided to move my family website to another location.  This means that the link I had provided to the letter written by Laurence McCorristine re: the family’s genealogy is no longer available.  But don’t despair, I will be posting it soon to this blog.

Correction on Mac Orristin stone

Hi Pam,

I have had the article checked by a local historian.

photo provided by Una Carlin

This is his reply.

The info is incorrect re Young slab and was invented by the family and elaborated by Amy Young in her book. The slab is of millstone grit which is local stone. McCallions are a common name in the parish for centuries.
Date of slab is not 14c or 18c and I think 16c is the best bet. Or you can avoid dates and describe it as medieval. Few of these exist. I think there is one in Letterkenny museum and another at Doe Castle for a McSweeney or O Donnell.

The depiction of Gaelic sport on any stone monument is very rare and there are only a couple in Ireland depicting sport which makes the slab unique. Slabs and crosses were mainly for funerary use or for religious sites, not for sport.

Also note that the hurley stick was used to play caman throughout Inishowen in the 18c and 19c between parishes. Caman is the Irish word today for hurling. Spelling – put a fada or acute accent on last a (cannot do it on email myself) Even landlords took part in it.

In his book on Ancient Monuments of Inishowen, North Donegal, he has written, “This is one of the very rare examples of Scots- Gaelic to be seen on an Irish monument and illustrates the close links that existed between this peninsula and Scotland. Circa 1400, lands in this area were available for distribution and members of the Mac Allan clan were given grants of territory as a reward for their military services in helping O’Doherty gain control of the peninsula. The symbols on the stone slab in the church are reminders of the warlike and sporting skills of the family. The name Mac Orristin (McCorristin) was also well known in this monastry (Clonca). In 1431 the name of the rector was Cornelius Mac Orristin.”

This should clarify the incorrect info I sent you.

Regards,

Una

(Thanks Una for providing the photo!)

Una Carlin wrote:

While researching this grave slab I found this information.

“The famous stone of Magnus MacOrristin of the Isles, still in the chancel of the ruined church at Cloncha, is said to be placed over his [Robert Young's] remains, and certainly this was the firm belief of his great-grandson George. This stone is referred to by W.J.Doherty in his ‘Inis-owen and Tirconnell,’ and an illustration of it appears in the ‘Ulster Journal of Archaeology,’ 1895, Vol I, p 170.

In vol II of the UJA the following account of it, written by the Rev, Archdeacon of Derry, appears: ‘The curious appearance of this stone can be explained as follows: This stone had long lain buried under soil. I remember seeing it when quite a little boy, and I was at service in the now ruined church. Some long years since I went and had the stone stripped, and that same day went to the Youngs of Culdaff, as I knew it was a grave of one of their family, and asked them about it. They told me a fishing -boat from Culdaff was blown over to one of the Scotch [sic] isles in a gale, and on its return the crew, in want of ballast, went into a churchyard in, I think, Iona, and took this stone away, which one of their relatives got hold of and placed it where it is. This would account for the golf-stick and ball [clearly pictured on the stone - Charlie], which were unknown in Ireland, and quite suits with the title upon the stone. The name ‘Magnus MacOrristin’ is utterly unknown in the district [ie of Culdaff], and ‘of the Isles’ would exactly fall in with the history; while the golf-stick and ball might utterly mislead antiquaries as to the existence of the game in Ireland.”

Unlike the Rev E.J.Hamilton I believe the stick is a shinty stick as opposed to a golf club which makes sense if the grave slab is of Scottish origin.

It would be interesting to know if Magnus MacOrristin was from Iona and is not related to the names listed in the historical registers of Donegal.

Regards,

Una Carlin

Mandy Coriston wrote:

I’m sorry I can’t address this to you personally, as the web page I located you on did not list your name. My family also has the Laurence McCorristine letter, or a similar letter. I believe ours may be dated 1981. I have succeeded in finding the six “Coristons” (our spelling) pardoned by James I after the flight of the earls.

They are:

Hugh McCorstan
Phelomie McCorstan
Rowrie McCorestine
Owen McCorestine
Connor McCorestine
Ed. McCoroston

I have also done some research into what we affectionately call the “Coriston Stone”, and have found a few pictures of it. I would be interested in exchanging information with you, if you would be willing.

Sincerely,

Mandy Coriston
Newton, NJ

Marilyn Ayres wrote:

Your family history website was very interesting and helpful. I visited the Inishowen peninsula in NE County Donegal last summer to seek my own ancestors. They had nothing to do with the Clonca Church ruin, but I wanted to visit as many early sites as possible during my stay. The high cross at Clonca is very nicely carved and VERY high indeed, so I wanted to see it.

Clonca Church is interesting, but the current building is not 7th century. The church on the site is 17th century, although the lintel over the door is older, and, like many Irish churches, it was built on the site of an early ecclesiastical settlement. (And those, in turn, were invariably built on pagan holy sites, like springs and groves, so as to associate Christianity with the pagan beliefs of the locals and make acceptance of the the new religion easier for all.) The current church is a roofless ruin. As you walk inside, the carved limestone tombstone of your ancestor is attached to the lefthand wall at the far end, beside another, plainer tombstone.

Also see http://www.visitinishowen.com/tour/culdafftour.html for another description of the church, cross and tombstone. As the site indicates, the tombstone is not medieval. This website places it in the 16th century. It is so finely carved and well-preserved that I’m surprised it’s dated even that early, and the following website dates it later.

I found a website that shows an old black-and-white photo of the tombstone lying on the ground outside the church. (See http://www.movilleinishowen.com/history/moville_heritage/cloncha_culdaff.htm
and look at the photo on the right of a woman kneeling over the tombstone.) Because it’s tall, thin, and tapered like a shield, I believe it was meant to lie down over the grave, as it’s seen here, rather than to stand erect as a headstone. If vertical, it would be too easily tipped over, and since the intricate and beautiful carving goes all the way to the bottom, it could not have been driven into the ground for stability. As you might gather from the name of this website, Mayville in the old records is now called Moville, a townland on Lough Foyle on the the east side of the Inishown peninsula.

Thanks again for your website. I like to have details of what I’ve seen, and I could never have interpreted the Irish inscriptions without your information. And do visit Inishowen. There’s a driving route they call the
“Inishowen 100″ (miles), which outlines a circular tour of the peninsula. There are many interesting places and some quite spectacular scenery. Don’t miss the Knockamany Bens north of Malin Town. From carpark at the top there are spectaclular views of Trawbreaga Bay, the sand dunes of Lagg, Doagh Isle, the wide sand beach of the Back Strand, and Five Fingers Strand, where you can see several rocky headlands of northern County Donegal lined up, one after another.

Muiris Mag Ualghairg wrote:

I came across your website at http://pemc.tripod.com/family/namehistory.html .

I am a descendent of
the south Donegal Curristans (and the spelling varies within members
of the same family, some spelling it more or less as you do and others
slightly differently – all related.) Our branch are based in Skreen
(near Laghy and the area around about – apparently the family settled
in Skreen when one of them married a local man who owned much of the
townland and who gave land to his daughters as a dowry – the land was
used to build the house in which the Curristans live!)

Aparently our branch of the Curristans originated in Leitrim! Two
cousins moved up from drumkeerin in the 1790s. We know that there
were other curristines in the area in the early 1900s as some
emigrated to America and are recorded as coming from Drumkeeran (sic)
in Ellis Island records.

I was wondering if you would have any data on your family or would
like to be put in the loop (so to speak) about Curristine/Curristan
developments.

Yours
Muiris

Muiris Mag Ualghairg wrote:

Subject: Corristine/Curristan etc
I have just read the webpage at http://pemc.tripod.com/family/namehistory.html regarding the Curristans etc. I have been in contact with Melissa Curristan who is married to a ‘Donegal Curristan’ (the ones from Laghy). I too am descended from this family and indeed my father’s family live close by to the Curristans still. I would be interested in any details of genealogical research that you have.

Melissa has also provided me with a copy of a letter written by her great uncle but taken from information provided by his great uncle which puts it back in the realm of the early 1800′s outlining the history of our family from that time down to the 1970s – not every branch and I have to supply my line from one of the daughters, but his letter does mention her and who she married and from there onwards it is easy for me to continue on.

Yours
Muiris

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